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Leviathan

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« on: March 22, 2003, 05:15:41 PM »

Article from wx


It looks as though Goldberg is officially a WWE superstar. Even though others are using a silly magazine cover as confirmation on something as big as Goldberg signing with WWE, a deal does seem to be reached. Many claim that Goldberg has already signed with WWE and will be debuting at WrestleMania or on television the week following. So far, it's looking as if Goldberg will land on the RAW side which would leave open programs with Steve Austin and Triple H right off the bat.

If this is true.Do you think the wwe has made another huge mistake.
They have brought in another man with a huge price tag attached,looking for a fast cure to the rateings slump.
Will his presence even make a difference in rateings over the long run.
I don't even see a place for him in either brand.
Not without another main event wrestler being depushed.

your thoughts on goldburg in the wwe.



 

 
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2003, 06:48:32 PM »

The WWE has made a very bad move.  I'm sorry but Bill Goldberg is no more impressive than Scott Steiner.  Why will Vince sign Goldberg, who is responsible for ending the career of Bret Hart (one of the greatest - if not the greatest - wrestler of our time), with a stiff savat kick, but he won't give Macho Man Randy Savage (a man who helped build WWE and is one of the most celebrated wrestlers in WWE history) one more run a la Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, and Shawn Michaels?  

I have NEVER been a Goldberg fan, and I never will be.  The man is a four move wonder and he is going to get stale faster than a bag of open Doritos.  Oh well, before I continue bashing this move, I'll have to see what Goldberg does in WWE.  A Goldberg/Austin match has huge drawing power and will no doubt spark a great amount of - what will be - temporary interest.  Looks like WWE just applied another bandaid to the wound instead of opting for stitches....  
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2003, 06:49:47 PM »

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Huh? Is there another WX that I don't know about? :confused:

I'm actually glad that Goldberg's coming in. I enjoyed his work in WCW, as popular as it is and was to bash him for being one-dimensional. I think his character - and he does have one - could bring something fresh to the RAW table. He's a one-minded heroic machine, whose first thought is always for what's good and right. RAW doesn't really have that kind of babyface - Austin's character is essentially self-centered and more of an anti-hero, and Booker T isn't exactly a machine. So although the initial spurt of interest won't last, I think that Goldberg could contribute a lot to RAW if used sensibly. Perhaps that's the only sticking point...
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2003, 07:38:49 PM »

well I can say im glad goldberg is coming, he may only have 3 moves, but he has a lot more fans then that & his presence should shurly bring a ratings boost. which is good for everyone in wwe, and fopfully vince will stop letting talent go.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2003, 10:52:09 PM »

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Huh? Is there another WX that I don't know about? :confused:
The other WX is WrestlingExposed.com It's probably one of the best news sites around in my opinion. Third to The Mayhem and Rajah.

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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2003, 12:52:37 AM »

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Huh? Is there another WX that I don't know about? :confused:
The other WX is WrestlingExposed.com It's probably one of the best news sites around in my opinion. Third to The Mayhem and Rajah.

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Theres Also WrestlingXpress.com

Anyways...

WWE signing Goldberg is useless. Hes just going to become like Steiner in WWE after his fued with Triple H hes doing mid-card matches. And like alot of you said he can't do more than 3 moves...
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2003, 02:30:59 PM »

Well it appears as if i am in the minority here, but i hate he idea of Goldberg coming to WWE. I hope above all hopes that the fans have forgotten him to the extent that when he walks through the current then the entire arena is dead! That would truly make my day!

However, if know WWE like i think i do, then they will hype this up for a while and make ppl want to see him. So get ready for those clips like they did for Rey and Steiner. Only this time it will go "Who's Next"  :ass:

I don't see much coming out of this myself. But then again, i am not a Goldberg fan and never really was so i wouldn't' be expecting much anyways. All i can honestly see, is a lot of hype for him to come in. Then when he gets there they will try to squeeze a few big matches out of him. Then after one or 2 matches they will see that Goldberg is NOT on WWE's level of competition and regret the day they signed him!

I also see the push of a much deserving talent being halted so that TV time can be used for pushing goldberg. I see much better talent being cut during roster cuts to compensate the money they will pay goldberg, and i see another star's career coming to a premature end due the clumsiness of Goldberg.


I want to see Goldberg job to austin. I want to see HHH treat Goldberg like a little bitch. I want to see Booker T. show Goldberg that he was the man for the job, not the austin gimmick stealer. and i would LOVE to see Gillberg come back and manhandle goldberg!!!
 
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2003, 02:44:02 PM »

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the austin gimmick stealer
Even after all these years, I still don't understand the opinion that Goldberg is an Austin clone. Okay, they're both bald and wear black trunks. But does Goldberg cuss? Does he flip the bird? Is he an anti-hero who attacks everybody, whether they're heel or face? And does Austin use a power-based offence? Was his reputation built on an undefeated streak? Does he attempt anything like a savat kick, successful or otherwise? Aside from those glancing visual similarities, they are entirely different characters and performers - Goldberg just happened to come along in WCW after Austin reached the top of WWE.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2003, 03:08:43 PM »

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the austin gimmick stealer
Even after all these years, I still don't understand the opinion that Goldberg is an Austin clone. Okay, they're both bald and wear black trunks. But does Goldberg cuss? Does he flip the bird? Is he an anti-hero who attacks everybody, whether they're heel or face? And does Austin use a power-based offence? Was his reputation built on an undefeated streak? Does he attempt anything like a savat kick, successful or otherwise? Aside from those glancing visual similarities, they are entirely different characters and performers - Goldberg just happened to come along in WCW after Austin reached the top of WWE.
The comparison is made for several reasons:

First of all is the similar appearance. both individuals are bald, both have the goatee and both wrestle in a simple pair of black trunks. I know that bald wrestlers have been around forever, i know that goatee's are the current style for facial hair (how i wish i could grow some) and i know that black trunks have been forever also. But Austin is easily recognized as the man for bringing it all together as a whole. Others thought that his style was too bland and not marketable (Don't forget he was fired for being unmarketable), yet austin proved them wrong and went straight to the top w/o changing his appearance. Then AFTER austin was over and was recognized for being simple in appearance, out comes Goldberg who looks exactly like austin except he has more bulk mass.

Next comparison has to do with the attitudes of their characters. Now the men take different routes, but they end up at the same place. They both have a "take no trash talk, take no prisoners, in your face, BMF" type of gimmick. The only difference is that Austin was in the more adult oriented WWF and was encouraged to do foul gestures, whereas Goldberg was on the family oriented WCW and was encouraged NOT to be as ranchy.

Thirdly is the way both characters debuted. The SCSA gimmick first started out as a silent type. If you remember Million Dollar Man was his first mouth piece, as WWE felt that Austin couldn't cut it on the stick. Then after Ted left WWE, Austin was out there by himself and for a short period didn't speak, but let his ringwork tell his story. Goldberg was brought in very similarly. He came out, went to the ring, worked his match and left. He didn't talk, he didn't dance, and he didn't try to set himself apart. He just let his rinkwork speak for itself.

And finally (i am far enough off topic as it is), both men are similar in move types. Again, both take their own paths, but the similarities are there. Both men rely on moves that get instant crowd pop/recognition. Goldberg relies on his power moves, his spinning heel kick, his spear, and jackhammer. Austin relies on his louz press, his mudhole stompin, and his stunners. They use simples moves that the crowd wants to see.

 
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2003, 03:23:04 PM »

This is for the people who haven't yet seen the cover off the May edition of WWE Magazine .....



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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2003, 03:27:57 PM »

I doubt that is the actual cover. If WWE were going to do this then they would have thier own picture of Goldberg. that is a picture of goldberg standing infront of the old WCW Nitro Stage.
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2003, 04:14:25 PM »

No, that's definately a false cover. The black surrounding the WWE symbol is just some spray paint feature that alot of photo editing programs have, including my ancient Photostudio 2000 SE program.

So strictly as a guy that spends half of his time making banners for my signatures (I have dozens and dozens in the rejected pile), I can say that is most definately a fake.
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2003, 04:31:39 PM »

About the magazine cover.

I heard goldburg was sporting a brand new tatoo on his other arm.
If what I heard is correct.That has to be a fake. Besides anybody could create that cover in photoshop.
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2003, 01:45:58 AM »

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About the magazine cover.

I heard goldburg was sporting a brand new tatoo on his other arm.
If what I heard is correct.That has to be a fake. Besides anybody could create that cover in photoshop.
but seeing as that pic is a few years old, the tattoo would'nt be in the picture anyway.
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2003, 01:49:15 AM »

But you see, they wouldn't want to use an old pic if they were actually putting Goldberg on the cover. They wouldn't use some old picture, they'd use something new.

That's another thing which gives this away.
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