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[Illusion]

Right, I don't really know how to start this thread.  I don't really talk about my personal life on here at all, mostly because there really isn't one because I really hate opening up to people, but I need someone to talk to right now so...

Okay so I know we've joked about it on here a lot about my sexual orientation over the last few years, and my relationship with Hazzy, Fan, and others, but recently I have actually found myself being attracted to...well...guys.  Before I've always been "appreciative" of good looking guys and could see why women would like them, but now those feelings are becoming even stronger and I'm even having certain types of dreams of guys.

I was talking to this chick who's also gay recently on MSN about it and she told me I should try and open up about it, so I guess this would be the first step and easiest way to do it, at first at least.  Any advice on how I would approach this topic with people offline?

[The Headliner]

Well, assuming this isn't some hilarious Internet rib of yours...

"Bi-curious" might be the best way to define what you're describing at the moment, until you're a little more certain of your feelings either way. Be open minded about it yourself - a lot of people your age have doubts about their sexuality and begin to explore it, sometimes realizing they're gay or bisexual, other times reaching the conclusion that actually, they just have a higher appreciation for the same sex than most people but they're still straight. You've got all the time in the world to discover and come to terms with whatever that truth is.

As far as other people are concerned, remember that when it comes down to it, it's your business and they are privileged if you choose to share it with them. You needn't feel pressured to make any big declarations that you're not ready for. That said, cliched as it sounds, you've nothing to be ashamed of. As long as you're not actively trying to keep it bottled up, then you'll find yourself discussing it with the right people when it's most natural to do so. You already have a good idea of who you trust, and who it would benefit you to have them know and understand this part of your life and personality. It should get easier with everyone else later on. In this day and age, most people realize that's all it is, and that you're still the same person - for better or worse!

[Hazzy]

Can't really put it any better than Heady.

And I think we already knew anyway.

[The Headliner]

To be fair, that 2guys1cup link I sent on MSN was enough to turn anyone.

[Aussiestinger]

Well, assuming this isn't some hilarious Internet rib of yours...

"Bi-curious" might be the best way to define what you're describing at the moment, until you're a little more certain of your feelings either way. Be open minded about it yourself - a lot of people your age have doubts about their sexuality and begin to explore it, sometimes realizing they're gay or bisexual, other times reaching the conclusion that actually, they just have a higher appreciation for the same sex than most people but they're still straight. You've got all the time in the world to discover and come to terms with whatever that truth is.

As far as other people are concerned, remember that when it comes down to it, it's your business and they are privileged if you choose to share it with them. You needn't feel pressured to make any big declarations that you're not ready for. That said, cliched as it sounds, you've nothing to be ashamed of. As long as you're not actively trying to keep it bottled up, then you'll find yourself discussing it with the right people when it's most natural to do so. You already have a good idea of who you trust, and who it would benefit you to have them know and understand this part of your life and personality. It should get easier with everyone else later on. In this day and age, most people realize that's all it is, and that you're still the same person - for better or worse!

There is something wrong with it, the bible states that loving another man is wrong. If you are gay you are going to hell.

Have fun flaming faggots

[The Headliner]

You say that like he wasn't going to hell anyway. Besides, he's half way there, being Welsh and all.

[Advocate]

Well, assuming this isn't some hilarious Internet rib of yours...

"Bi-curious" might be the best way to define what you're describing at the moment, until you're a little more certain of your feelings either way. Be open minded about it yourself - a lot of people your age have doubts about their sexuality and begin to explore it, sometimes realizing they're gay or bisexual, other times reaching the conclusion that actually, they just have a higher appreciation for the same sex than most people but they're still straight. You've got all the time in the world to discover and come to terms with whatever that truth is.

As far as other people are concerned, remember that when it comes down to it, it's your business and they are privileged if you choose to share it with them. You needn't feel pressured to make any big declarations that you're not ready for. That said, cliched as it sounds, you've nothing to be ashamed of. As long as you're not actively trying to keep it bottled up, then you'll find yourself discussing it with the right people when it's most natural to do so. You already have a good idea of who you trust, and who it would benefit you to have them know and understand this part of your life and personality. It should get easier with everyone else later on. In this day and age, most people realize that's all it is, and that you're still the same person - for better or worse!

There is something wrong with it, the bible states that loving another man is wrong. If you are gay you are going to hell.

Have fun flaming faggots

stfu  Many churches do not believe that. 



anyways, you can't marry fan, because his country will not allow it


But yeah Illy.  I guess you can see in this thread that if you are actually bi-curious or gay (though, who would believe you), no one here (except aussiefaggot) would hold it against you.  Some of my friends were gay.  I say were, not because they changed their mind.  I say were, because we killed them when we found out.

[Aussiestinger]

stfu  Many churches do not believe that. 

And we end up with priests that  molest children, again going to hell. Just like yourself and anyone else that condones this disgusting sin.

[Fan]

I would have liked it if you warned me before posting this thread, Illy. I feel like you put me in a real uncomfortable and awkward situation. 

[Advocate]

stfu  Many churches do not believe that. 

And we end up with priests that  molest children, again going to hell. Just like yourself and anyone else that condones this disgusting sin.

The priests who molest children are catholics.  Pretty much because they are not allowed to have sex. The churches that condone homosexuality are not and therefore can take a wife and do not abuse children.

You on the other hand will never find a woman to love you.  So you will fuck a goat and go to hell for that. 

[Fan]

In most translations of the Bible it was fine to have multiple wives, and having relations with somebody outside your race was considered a 'worse' sin than having relations with some of the same gender.

[Advocate]

In most translations of the Bible it was fine to have multiple wives, and having relations with somebody outside your race was considered a 'worse' sin than having relations with some of the same gender.

and worst of all was dating snerkie, which aussiestinger is doing (and I know I said you would never find a girl who loves you, but instead a goat.  But snerkie is a goat).

[Aussiestinger]

This seems to be a touchy subject for you Advocate, do you need to confess your sins?

[Advocate]

This seems to be a touchy subject for you Advocate, do you need to confess your sins?

Ignorance is a touchy subject for me.  You make a stupid comment, expect to be called on it.

I have lots of sins and have confessed many of them.  Homosexuality is not one of them.  Though I do not consider it a sin either way.  But if it was, it would not be one of them. 

What I can say is "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."  I do not do a lot of throwing.

[Aussiestinger]

This seems to be a touchy subject for you Advocate, do you need to confess your sins?

Ignorance is a touchy subject for me.  You make a stupid comment, expect to be called on it.

I have lots of sins and have confessed many of them.  Homosexuality is not one of them.  Though I do not consider it a sin either way.  But if it was, it would not be one of them. 

What I can say is "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."  I do not do a lot of throwing.

You need to get that goats you keep talking about cock out of your ass.